Here, in the opening after the prayer, by his own admission.
He's not exactly the utterly penniless itinerant prophet like Jesus, nor even the itinerant self-supporting apostle and laborer like Paul. He's what is called a rentier. He uses the income to support his family, which lives frugally, and his work, which is noteworthy.
But who knows? Maybe some day he'll actually trust God and go all the way. For now Francis Chan still does not grasp that repentance according to Jesus means, "No man can be my disciple who does not say goodbye to everything that he owns."
